“Who Are These People?”

September 20, 2008

Jeremiah 9:2 “Oh that I had in the wilderness a lodging place of wayfaring men; that I might leave my people, and go from them! for they be all adulterers, an assembly of treacherous men.” 

This passage has been on my mind for about a month. It’s one of those verses which never grabbed my attention before, but suddenly I’ve been thinking on. In it, the prophet Jeremiah is expressing a longing to find refuge apart from the wickedness of his generation. A lodging place is where one would abide for a time with others who are also in route from one place to another. I’ve been thinking on this in a different fashion, primarily as a picture of the saints during the tribulation. Gatherings of christians; from different towns and diferent backgrounds who have met up; primarily by divine appointment, to exhort one another as the time of shaking is at hand. They are with one accord and looking steadfastly unto Jesus. In these days, the christian like institutions of men will either be dissolved by the powers that be or will have joined the powers that be; some even posing as a places of refuge for the purpose of luring in the true saints.

This appears even more ominous in type than when it was in my head. The other night as I was pondering things, I had a thought. (I can’t really call it a vision or even a revelation, but it certainly lines up with things) I can see pseudo places of refuge. Groups of people professing faith in Christ in a setting that appears “hidden” from the powers of darkness. Yet it’s merely a show; designed to lure in the true remnant for the purpose of handing them over to authorities. I can almost see some of those engaged in this deception thinking that they are doing God service by carrying out Romans chapter 13. I’m starting to understand why I become so discomforted when I see christians beholden to a political agenda and overcharged by the affairs of this “very temporal” world. (As I have been in times past. I was very neo-conistic in my younger days, but the Lord has delivered me from it)

Betrayal at the hands of those in whom we had placed confidence. Jesus told us that such betrayal would take place at the hands of parents, brethren, kinsfolks, and friends. (Luke 21:16) The apostle Paul wrote about being in perils amonst false brethren. (II Corinthians 11:26) People that we count as being in our “inner circle” or those who secretly put on a “christian show,” will cause us to be put to death. Words fail to portray just how dangerous these days are. There will be a complete breakdown of the old social structures and institutions of sustainability where heart problems could be hidden by a religious facade. In times of uncertainty, the mechanisms of self-preservation will cause the carnal minded to resort to acts previously considered unthinkable. We woefully underestimate the dangers of loving our lives in this world.

Philippians 2:12 “Wherefore my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.” 

This is one of those verses that can be taken way out of context if one isn’t careful. It speaks of ensuring that our heart is right with the Lord Jesus. We should take this matter seriously (with fear and trembling) and not just go along with the crowd. To many, discussions about end times events are troublesome. When the thought of betrayal by family members or good friends is mentioned, it’s almost too much to fathom. I have a mental list of folks who seem to understand the perilosity of the times that we’re in, and yet I don’t know that all of them are truly ready for what’s coming. I continuously wonder if I’m ready. Yet such conversation should cause us to draw closer to Jesus and know that he will sustain us.  This is why posts such as this one are relatively commonplace here. Not to cause panic or engage in the sensational, but to exhort the reader to seek these issues out for themselves and “GET CLOSE TO JESUS!”

Matthew 10:35-36 “For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.  And a mans foes shall be they of his own household.”

Matthew 10:37-38 “He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that lovethson or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And he that taketh not his cross and followeth after me, is not worthy of me.”

Placing family in higher esteem than the Lord is dangerous to be sure. It’s a condition of the heart that, for the most part may go unnoticed. Not only is it the esteeming of people above the Lord, in the season of great falling away and betrayal, it will cause one to make fatally flawed decisions. As much as we dearly love and fervently pray for those around us, we must ensure that Jesus is truly our Savior AND Lord. That he is first in our life and that we will remain faithful; regardless of the consequences in the physical realm. We can be certain that, should we be called to stand before kings and governors as a testimony against them, they will use everything at their disposal in an attempt to bring us to compromise. The time to stablish our hearts is now; not when the “homeland security van” pulls into the driveway at 3:00am and we are taken into the night. 

Matthew 10:39 “He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it.”

We often quote these verses, but don’t really grasp the reality that they entail. Many simply cannot fathom the idea that we will ever see such events take place in our day. Our generation is no different than any other where saints have had to endure such trials. Tragically, the life of relative ease that many of us have grown up with will be the downfall of millions who believed that they were in need of nothing.  The first passage in this post came from jeremiah chapter 9. It goes on to tell about brothers and neighbors, who know not the Lord, dealing deceitfully with each other. Saying things and presenting a picture that’s not reflective of their true agenda. In the days ahead, we can expect to see this become increasingly commonplace as the shaking makes manifest the hearts of men.

Please check out this link, entitled Unconverted Christians written by Dave Daubenmire. It draws a distiction between simply following Jesus and being truly converted. A truly converted saint will lay down their life for Jesus. Until the next time, have a blessed weekend in Jesus.

Matthew 10:18-20 “And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles. But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father that speaketh in you.”




  1. […] by force.  Say those words out loud and contemplate what they mean for you and your family (emphasis mine): Placing family in higher esteem than the Lord is dangerous to be sure. It’s a […]

  2. >>Betrayal at the hands of those in whom we had placed confidence. Jesus told us that such betrayal would take place at the hands of parents, brethren, kinsfolks, and friends. (Luke 21:16)

    Jesus did not say it might happen but it will happen..

    Now i have expereicned it at alll levesl, from family, borther, mother, father, pastor, elders, friends.

  3. I believe that it will become so profound in the times ahead that only a really close walk with Jesus will one be able to discern between the authentic saints that we meet and those who are out to execute an agenda. I fear that very few of us have a grasp of how dangerous these times are. This shouldn’t discourage us; rather, it should cause us to get close to Jesus, and hide his word in our heart. We cannot do it on our own. It sounds as though you have already gone through this more than many of us.

    Thanks so much for stopping in.

    Have a blessed day in Jesus

  4. all they need to do is read the Bible

    3:1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
    2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
    3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
    4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
    5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
    6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
    7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
    8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
    9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.
    10 But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,
    11 Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.
    12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
    13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
    14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
    15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
    16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
    17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.

  5. So important to stay grounded in the infalliable word of God in these days of unparalleled deception.

    Blessings always in Jesus name.

  6. Timbob, your site is a refreshment.

    I spent many years terrified of end times teaching, as a result of some really wacko ideas that were around when I was a child. So paranoid was I, that even as an adult I would not read Revelation myself, or attend church if I knew it was on the agenda. I kid you not.

    When I finally mustered the courage to read it for myself I was amazed, I was staggered, I was knocked over by the revelation of WHO JESUS IS! That is the predominate theme I found in the book. Christ is victorious, and come what may, we will ultimately share the victory. In the face of serving such a powerful, holy, righteous, fierce, conquering God, who would fear what man could do?

    I was only sorry that I had been deprived of that knowledge for so long. The teaching I had received for years seemed to focus on how to save yourself from the perils to come, how to in your own strength try to divert disaster from your family, rather than how to throw yourself on the mercy of such an awe-inspiring God.

    Have you ever listened to “Ten Shekels and a shirt”? Not that I liken myself in my wildest imaginings as a person of the experience such as the author, but finding who I really served was a similar light bulb revelation, and it has changed my view of Christianity, and what it means to be His disciple, ever since.

    Thanks for some great reading.

  7. Hi beyondblue stockings. Without a doubt, Gods peace passes all understanding. I know of many who want to prepare for things physically, but if were in Christ and looking to him completely, his grace will be sufficient for anything. My light bulb moment concerning this came in the spring of 2004. What incredible peace. I’m really glad to have found your site. It’s in the blogroll.

    Have a blessed day and weekend in Jesus.

  8. I agree with you. It seems people forget that the Lord is coming soon. But the more I read scripture especially Revelation and the Gospels the more it gets clearer to me. Before we are caught up the the Lord, there will be tribulation. We seem to think we will see no tribulation, we will see it. People get the Tribulation and The Day of the Lord mixed up so much they don’t realise that they will be here for one and not the other. If we remain faithful to Him He will keep us out of the Time of Trial (the Day of the Lord with its trumpet judgements and pouring of the bowls of wrath). But we should expect to see tribulation. We only see the saints who have come out of the great tribulation in chapter 7 of revelation. After the breaking of 5 seals and right after the 6th one is broken.

    Jesus said there would be wars and rumours of wars etc….we definitely need to prepare ourselves by abiding in The Lord. With so much lies being hurled around and mass blindness because of the lack of discernment and inept dividing of God’s word by some teachers as well as apathy and complacency shown by many of us, it is scary to think what will happen at such a time as the one to come. We can only pray that many look to the Lord and abide in Him patiently waiting for the Lord’s coming.

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